In Customer Interviews Don’t Rush to Pitch the Solution


All the theory in the world won’t make a lick of difference if you don’t get into the field and do something. That’s why advice isn’t worth as much as it should be, and isn’t nearly as effective as it should be. Entrepreneurs consistently make the same mistakes over and over, even when there are lots of competent and successful people out there advising otherwise (and non-successful, non-competent people too!). Founders are doers, simple as that. Not theorists. Not passersby. Not partipants. Doers. Practitioners. And leaders.

That being said, here’s some advice (based on action though!) …

I’ve recently started the validation process for a startup idea. It’s not going well; at least in terms of validating what I think is an interesting idea. The process I’m going through (for now) is leveraging my existing network – since the startup idea is in the recruitment space – and interviewing people. These are people that I’ve defined as potential customers (for the most part.) And what I’ve realized is just how hard it is NOT to pitch the solution upfront.

When the first few words out of my mouth are, “Let me tell you about this great idea I have…” I realize shortly thereafter that I’m screwed. The entire exercise of trying to assess a prospect’s pain, the intensity of it, and whether or not my startup idea can solve it, goes right out the window. I’ve tainted the sample. But it’s hard not to pitch the solution upfront, because let’s face it, the solution is cool. And I want to get to the “fun stuff” as quickly as possible.

As I go through the interviews, things are getting better. In some cases, when my probing questions about a prospect’s pain aren’t pointing me in a useful direction, I don’t even bother going into the solution. In some cases, even with lukewarm feedback, I still discuss the solution or the general area of interest I’m focused on. And guess what the response has been?

  • That’s really cool. I can see how that’s interesting. Oh ya, that’s very slick.
  • Then I ask, “But would it make your life significantly better?”
  • No.
  • “Would you pay for this kind of solution?”
  • Meh.
  • “It sounds like it would add some value but not enough to get you begging me to deliver the solution tomorrow.”
  • True.
  • “But it is cool.”
  • Ya, it’s cool. Definitely a cool idea.

Using friends and/or people in my network already creates a bias I have to be cautious about. Pitching the solution upfront makes it a whole lot worse. There’s lots of great advice out there on how to do customer interviews properly (Four Steps to the Epiphany covers this very well), but until you get right into it and start calling people, recognize the mistakes you’re making (just keep your eyes and ears open!), and keep at it, you won’t be able to maximize the value of the process.

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July 14, 2010 Posted in Customer Development by

  • http://www.cindyalvarez.com cindyalvarez

    Identify the 1-2 word “general topic” for your idea.
    Then say, “Tell me about you/your company and how you use [general topic]“
    Then shut up for at least 1 minute (look at a clock).

    If they start talking about something unrelated, then you didn't pick the right “general topic”; try again.

    I find the habit of looking at the clock is a big help for me to avoid jumping in. Also, if you start with “tell me about you”, you set the tone where the interviewee feels more confident talking. (otherwise, they're likely to defer to you).

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Thanks Cindy. I'm by no means doing a fantastic job in the interviews, but each one is providing me more valuable information than the last. I'm having “aha!” moments each time that force me to focus more and think harder.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Thanks Cindy. I'm by no means doing a fantastic job in the interviews, but each one is providing me more valuable information than the last. I'm having “aha!” moments each time that force me to focus more and think harder.

  • http://twitter.com/dmlandry D. Matthew Landry

    Any startup idea has all kinds of implicit assumptions baked into it. When trying to vet a new idea and develop those customers, it's not uncommon to start out not knowing what you don't know [of course, here's where your post on domain expertise is relevant!].

    It's awesome that you can bring up your selection biases and the tendency to want to jump to the conclusion — many people are so scared of finding out that they are wrong or their idea might not be good (yet), they just yammer away without getting back to those key points: do you care and would you pay for it.

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  • sayomartin

    This is something that I think even larger companies, particularly sales and product teams, have a hard time coming to terms with. I've found that taking the word “pitch” out of the equation is a good start, then scheduling an information-gathering discussion around s customer's pain-points, must-have solution/tools vs. nice-to-have solution/tools, as well as gathering an idea of their workflow and sharing industry best practices automatically sets you up for a home run.

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  • http://nextgencrm.blogspot.com/ Ami Assayag

    I'm going through the same process in the CRM space. The good thing in my case is that the idea is not fully defined yet, and I am using potential customers to tell me what they need. Maybe that's a better approach – assume that your idea is work in progress and ask your network how could it work for them.

  • http://www.eriklarsson.com Erik Larsson

    Couldn't agree more. I just realized 10 interviews with readers of my blog. I guess it's slightly biased but the answers I got will serve me very well.

    It was extremely hard not to start pitching, I Aldo found it hard to not join the conversation myself. After about 4 interviews I got he hang of it.

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  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Practice really does make perfect! Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Every idea is a work in progress, I don't think many ideas ever stop evolving.

    Best approach is to focus on their problems and see if your idea can solve their problems, and if not, how it can be evolved and changed to meet their needs.

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  • http://twitter.com/fijiaaron Aaron Evans

    Ah, that's so true. Every sales pitch should also be market research, but it's hard to want to pivot.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    I don't think most people WANT to pivot, but it's often necessary. And people have to be analytical and diligent enough to know when it's time to change things. Clinging to the past = bad.

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