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		<title>By: ???????66???</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Why your proposals fail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why your proposals fail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bottom line, this post offers a lot of common mistakes you should watch out for. &#8212; Adam Pash Top 10 Reasons Why Proposals Fail [Instigator [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2010-07-12 &#171; Uncle Joe&#39;s House of Crazy</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Top 10 Reasons Why Proposals Fail Your business is great. You’ve invented something better than sliced bread. You offer such an amazing service at such a great price that people should be knocking your door down. And they might be. But they’re all asking for a proposal. Proposals are a fact of life. We all do them, and we’re all trying to blow our prospects away. But most proposals are bad. (tags: toread business entrepreneurship howto proposal proposals marketing) [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>estate 10 reasons why they fail &#171; Uncategorized &#171; foreclosures web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5.Top 10 Reasons Why Proposals Fail But most proposals are bad. Here are 10 reasons why proposals fail: &#8230; Many really good salespeople do all the things you mention in a sales call, but fail to do it in the actual proposal. Many are just uncomfortable writing, some want to be just customer facing and there are many more reasons. http://www.instigatorblog.com/top-10-reasons-why-proposals-fail/2007/02/07/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: vuong11</title>
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		<dc:creator>vuong11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shenbingsczz</title>
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		<dc:creator>shenbingsczz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good!</description>
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		<title>By: Pinpoint Proposal Problems - Before and After They Happen &#124; McCombs Spark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinpoint Proposal Problems - Before and After They Happen &#124; McCombs Spark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Top 10 Reasons Why Your Proposals Fail Otherwise entitled, &#8220;What Could Have Possibly Gone Wrong?&#8221; though ignorance can be bliss, it&#8217;s certainly no way to run a business. If your company lives and breathes on making deals, this is a can&#8217;t miss rundown of common mistakes and pitfalls from Ben Yoskovitz&#8217;s Instigator blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Top 10 Reasons Why Your Proposals Fail Otherwise entitled, &#8220;What Could Have Possibly Gone Wrong?&#8221; though ignorance can be bliss, it&#8217;s certainly no way to run a business. If your company lives and breathes on making deals, this is a can&#8217;t miss rundown of common mistakes and pitfalls from Ben Yoskovitz&#8217;s Instigator blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Proposals Fail &#124; Dragonfly Editorial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Proposals Fail &#124; Dragonfly Editorial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for all you proposal writers out there &#8230; Ben Yoskovitz at the InstigatorBlog talks about the top 10 reasons why proposals fail. A few of his most important points: They donâ€™t reference the prospectâ€™s pain. Why [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James England</title>
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		<dc:creator>James England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think about this all the time and wrote about one angle a little recently - the angle being that a lot of salespeople are great at relationship selling (face-to-face) yet hate actually putting pen to paper and writing.

Many really good salespeople do all the things you mention in a sales call, but fail to do it in the actual proposal. Many are just uncomfortable writing, some want to be just customer facing and there are many more reasons. 

Well structured, persuasive proposals are usually produced as a team effort and someone who is reading this thinking &quot;I need to write a proposal and don&#039;t know where to start&quot; should really get some input from an experienced salesperson who is a good writer too. There is a skill and technique in a good sales call and having the same impact in your proposal sometimes requires a different input entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think about this all the time and wrote about one angle a little recently &#8211; the angle being that a lot of salespeople are great at relationship selling (face-to-face) yet hate actually putting pen to paper and writing.</p>
<p>Many really good salespeople do all the things you mention in a sales call, but fail to do it in the actual proposal. Many are just uncomfortable writing, some want to be just customer facing and there are many more reasons. </p>
<p>Well structured, persuasive proposals are usually produced as a team effort and someone who is reading this thinking &#8220;I need to write a proposal and don&#8217;t know where to start&#8221; should really get some input from an experienced salesperson who is a good writer too. There is a skill and technique in a good sales call and having the same impact in your proposal sometimes requires a different input entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: James England</title>
		<link>http://www.instigatorblog.com/top-10-reasons-why-proposals-fail/2007/02/07/comment-page-3/#comment-118532</link>
		<dc:creator>James England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think about this all the time and wrote about one angle a little recently - the angle being that a lot of salespeople are great at relationship selling (face-to-face) yet hate actually putting pen to paper and writing.

Many really good salespeople do all the things you mention in a sales call, but fail to do it in the actual proposal. Many are just uncomfortable writing, some want to be just customer facing and there are many more reasons. 

Well structured, persuasive proposals are usually produced as a team effort and someone who is reading this thinking &quot;I need to write a proposal and don&#039;t know where to start&quot; should really get some input from an experienced salesperson who is a good writer too. There is a skill and technique in a good sales call and having the same impact in your proposal sometimes requires a different input entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think about this all the time and wrote about one angle a little recently &#8211; the angle being that a lot of salespeople are great at relationship selling (face-to-face) yet hate actually putting pen to paper and writing.</p>
<p>Many really good salespeople do all the things you mention in a sales call, but fail to do it in the actual proposal. Many are just uncomfortable writing, some want to be just customer facing and there are many more reasons. </p>
<p>Well structured, persuasive proposals are usually produced as a team effort and someone who is reading this thinking &#8220;I need to write a proposal and don&#8217;t know where to start&#8221; should really get some input from an experienced salesperson who is a good writer too. There is a skill and technique in a good sales call and having the same impact in your proposal sometimes requires a different input entirely.</p>
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