Startup Communities and Startup Failure


I’ve got two critically important articles to point your attention to today – on startup communities and startup failure.

  1. Jevon MacDonald talks about how startups can save venture capital (in Canada). He includes a great presentation that he’s given in a few places about how startup communities can work more effectively to get great startups off the ground.

    My take, without turning this into a blog post of its own, is that the early, but growing startup communities across Canada need to do a much better job of policing their own and touting their own. This is something that I have yet to see addressed effectively by anyone. Somehow, as a community, we need to be able to get together, vet ideas, provide honest feedback and bring new teams together with new ideas, where old teams and old ideas have failed. If we don’t take a hard look at our own “house” (i.e. the collection of startups we’re launching), and be honest with each other when things aren’t working (and celebrate that failure), then we do ourselves a disservice. Once we – as a startup community – are truly creating great startups, pumping out great teams with great ideas, mashing up people and ideas in new ways, and proving that we can raise the bar on the quality of the community, I guarantee you the funding will follow quite aggressively.

  2. Roger Ehrenberg writes a very detailed and honest post-mortem on Monitor110, a startup he was involved with from an early stage. They raised around $20M dollars, but couldn’t get where they needed to go. What’s most important about Roger’s thoughts is the fact that he’s completely honest and open. He includes a list of critical mistakes he made, many of which we’ve all seen from within our own startups. You can be sure that Roger has taken those mistakes to heart and significantly improved his outcomes in other businesses he’s involved with.

    Post-mortems like this are hard to do. It reminds me of Phil Chrun’s own deconstruction of his failed startup, MyCarpoolStation. It was open, raw and real. If you can’t learn from Roger’s mistakes and Phil’s mistakes, you’re in big trouble, cause you’re not learning at all.

Startup communities work when they’re honest and mature. We shouldn’t go around publicly bashing one another, there’s no value in that, but privately we have to be able to look at things with an honest eye. I don’t like the thought of negatively impacting a young team of entrepreneurs by providing real criticism – the worry is that they abandon their goals of being startup entrepreneurs – but if we can’t provide that criticism, step up with our own honest stories of failure, and then find active solutions to building great startups with the pool of people and ideas we have, we can’t succeed as a startup community.

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July 21, 2008 Posted in Montreal, Startups by

  • http://www.bimbel.de Olli

    Thank you for pointing to these two articles.

  • http://www.bimbel.de Olli

    Thank you for pointing to these two articles.

  • http://www.nextgencommerce.ca Heidi

    After reading this review I had to post my comments. I totally agree with this and would love to participate in any events or meetings that help entrepreneurs swap ideas and help each other avoid major mistakes. I am an entrepreneur with an early stage company and I have been successfully bootstrapping the company todate. I believe in some cases venture capital is needed at some point in the company’s history but from the get go I think its premature unless it can be justified. Remember the old school way was to build your company from scratch with nothing more than loans and grants. Many successfully accomplished this.

  • http://www.nextgencommerce.ca Heidi

    After reading this review I had to post my comments. I totally agree with this and would love to participate in any events or meetings that help entrepreneurs swap ideas and help each other avoid major mistakes. I am an entrepreneur with an early stage company and I have been successfully bootstrapping the company todate. I believe in some cases venture capital is needed at some point in the company's history but from the get go I think its premature unless it can be justified. Remember the old school way was to build your company from scratch with nothing more than loans and grants. Many successfully accomplished this.

  • http://www.yourteledoctor.com Mehdi Akiki

    I hope to see this happen in the next events here in Montreal. The next tech entrepreneur breakfast should be a good place to start this debate. I am ready to share my own failures as well. As well as how I want to do to improve my own outcome.

  • http://www.yourteledoctor.com Mehdi Akiki

    I hope to see this happen in the next events here in Montreal. The next tech entrepreneur breakfast should be a good place to start this debate. I am ready to share my own failures as well. As well as how I want to do to improve my own outcome.

  • http://salesblog.karlgoldfield.com/ Karl Goldfield

    Some great insight. We should as communities bond together and share the good, and the not so good. It is usually from understanding of the not so good that the best emerges.

    Edison and the light bulb, many know this story is the best way of looking at it.

  • http://salesblog.karlgoldfield.com/ Karl Goldfield

    Some great insight. We should as communities bond together and share the good, and the not so good. It is usually from understanding of the not so good that the best emerges.

    Edison and the light bulb, many know this story is the best way of looking at it.

  • http://www.anchorpointdesignsd.com Don Maes

    We have not only learned so much from others who have given of their time and experience in online communities, it is equally important to remember to try and give back as well. Giving spreads giving, that how small business survive!

  • http://www.anchorpointdesignsd.com Don Maes

    We have not only learned so much from others who have given of their time and experience in online communities, it is equally important to remember to try and give back as well. Giving spreads giving, that how small business survive!

  • http://www.dataplus-svc.com bhicks

    So what happens to the money they raised and do the investors loose?

  • http://www.dataplus-svc.com bhicks

    So what happens to the money they raised and do the investors loose?

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Ben Yoskovitz

    @bhicks: Investors typically lose. Of course it depends on the deal structure; there may be some residual value that investors get through the IP, asset ownership, etc. but that’s still a failure.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Ben Yoskovitz

    @bhicks: Investors typically lose. Of course it depends on the deal structure; there may be some residual value that investors get through the IP, asset ownership, etc. but that's still a failure.

  • http://www.eastcoastairsoft.com Rick

    Ben, it’s true that probably 90% of the companies investors invest in fail, but the 10% that succeed, investors reap incredible benefits. That’s the whole foundation behind venture capital; when a company succeeds, venture capitalists can make hundreds of times their investment back, which covers their failed ventures and more.

  • http://www.eastcoastairsoft.com Rick

    Ben, it's true that probably 90% of the companies investors invest in fail, but the 10% that succeed, investors reap incredible benefits. That's the whole foundation behind venture capital; when a company succeeds, venture capitalists can make hundreds of times their investment back, which covers their failed ventures and more.

  • http://www.myfreeps3.net Harvey

    Thanks for pointing out these two articles, the were very helpful.

  • http://www.myfreeps3.net Harvey

    Thanks for pointing out these two articles, the were very helpful.

  • http://sidsavara.com Sid Savara

    Thanks for pointing these out. I especially love reading post mortems – it’s easy to say what you did right when you’re a success, but I think we all learn more from reading about critical mistakes made by others.

  • http://www.mistergibson.com Mister Gibson

    I’m afraid that i wouldn’t have the nerve to invest a heap load of money on something that is so uncertain, i wouldn’t be able to sleep at night, some people in life thrive on the risk taking, not for me i’m afraid, regards, mick..

  • http://sidsavara.com Sid Savara

    Thanks for pointing these out. I especially love reading post mortems – it's easy to say what you did right when you're a success, but I think we all learn more from reading about critical mistakes made by others.

  • http://www.resp-canada.ca acarrothers

    Thank you for the link to the Roger Ehrenberg article. I enjoyed reading about his mistakes and will hopefully learn not to repat them in my own ventures.

  • http://www.mistergibson.com Mister Gibson

    I'm afraid that i wouldn't have the nerve to invest a heap load of money on something that is so uncertain, i wouldn't be able to sleep at night, some people in life thrive on the risk taking, not for me i'm afraid, regards, mick..

  • http://www.resp-canada.ca acarrothers

    Thank you for the link to the Roger Ehrenberg article. I enjoyed reading about his mistakes and will hopefully learn not to repat them in my own ventures.

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  • http://www.msnpaketi.com Msn Avatarlar?

    very nice article

  • http://www.msnpaketi.com Msn Avatarlar?

    very nice…

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    good joc writer

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    Yes i would like to know the same thing

  • http://www.donanimoyun.com/ Oyun indir

    I especially love reading post mortems – it's easy to say what you did right when you're a success

  • http://www.donanimoyun.com/ Oyun indir

    I especially love reading post mortems – it's easy to say what you did right when you're a success

  • http://www.startupprofessionals.com Martin Zwilling

    There have been many articles written on startup failures, so rather than focus on reasons for failure, I decided to extract some basic principles which are critical to the succes of a startup. See my article “Startup Principles for Success” on http://blog.startupprofessionals.com for some key ones.

    Martin Zwilling, CEO & Founder, Startup Professionals, Inc.

  • http://www.startupprofessionals.com Martin Zwilling

    There have been many articles written on startup failures, so rather than focus on reasons for failure, I decided to extract some basic principles which are critical to the succes of a startup. See my article “Startup Principles for Success” on http://blog.startupprofessionals.com for some key ones.

    Martin Zwilling, CEO & Founder, Startup Professionals, Inc.

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