Should You Hire Workaholics For Your Startup?

March 11, 2008

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The hubbub over Jason Calacanis’ post How to save money running a startup is completely absurd. Congratulations to Jason for causing a colossal sh*t storm where none should have existed.

He provides some great suggestions for things you can save money on. I’ve made plenty of suggestions on stuff you shouldn’t spend money on when starting a business but he’s got a few tips I hadn’t thought of.

What people seem to have reacted so negatively to was Jason’s point about hiring workaholics. He had so much negative feedback, he actually changed the item in his list:

Fire people who are not workaholics. don’t love their work… come on folks, this is startup life, it’s not a game. don’t work at a startup if you’re not into it–go work at the post office or starbucks if you’re not into it you want balance in your life. For realz.

And what exactly is the problem with that statement? Nothing. You should hire workaholics. They should also love their work and be passionate about what they’re doing. Workaholics alone are useless, because if they don’t love what they’re doing, their work will suck. All they’ll be doing is producing more of it…

I read Jason’s original point and thought, “What’s the big deal?”

Of course, I don’t know what Jason’s original intentions were with his suggestion (maybe he is a brutal slave driver) but here’s my take:

  1. You have to hire people who want to and can work hard. It’s not about how many hours they put in, sleeping under desks at the office, etc. It’s about a dedication to working hard, getting things done and seeing things through.
  2. You have to hire people who are passionate about the business. If they’re not passionate, they’ll fail you. If they are passionate but lazy they’ll fail you. They need to have a strong work ethic, a sense of responsibility (to you, their peers & the business) and they need to be passionate.
  3. You (as the CEO / founder of the startup) need to motivate passion. This is where Jason dropped the ball. Yes, he suggests fancy chairs and a good espresso maker. But in part, he suggests some of those “perks” to keep people at the office and working. That’s fairly common advice, but it’s stupid. You don’t buy employees lunch, coffee, etc. to keep them chained to their chairs, you do it to thank them for their hard work. You do it to bring the team together and develop camaraderie. You do it to inspire them, because you care. The more you care about your employees – and show that to them – the more they’ll give back. If they’re hard workers. If they’re lazy, or they don’t care, it won’t matter what you do. And you can’t afford to take time trying to turn lazy people into hard workers; so don’t waste your efforts or perks on them. Dump them.

    37 Signals recently announced some changes to their work environment. One of those is a 4-day work week. In my mind, this is an effort to reward and motivate the team. You don’t think the 37 Signals guys are hard workers? 37 Signals is able to implement this effort because they work so hard. Whether you define them as workaholics or not is irrelevant, they’ve worked hard, put in their time, had success and are now able to benefit from that by implementing changes to their work environment.

Jason’s trying to force “workaholism” at his startup. And you can’t. It doesn’t work. You can’t throw money, coffee, food or fancy chairs at the problem. At the same time, passion isn’t enough. You need to hire people who are:

  • hard workers
  • believers
  • team players (they need to feel a sense of responsibility to everyone on the team)
  • active learners
  • smart workers (you can’t measure a startup employee’s value in terms of hours worked alone)
  • willing to go the extra mile … and then some (the closest thing to “workaholic” in terms of semantics)

I don’t think Jason wrote the post in the best way possible, but I also think the resulting backlash was way over the top. People are playing word games with something that should be more important than that — hiring top-quality people, building great teams and aiming for successful startups.

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  • Startups need to run on the blood of workaholics, 'tis true, but you're right to classify the breed of workaholic necessary -- a dedicated, passionate, motivated and level-headed one. People who LIKE staying late, working weekends and sacrificing personal relaxation for fame, fortune, or at least the promise of being able to pay the bills in the very near future.

    However, there's a proper way to phrase everything, and coming across like The Guy Who Finds Nothing Wrong With the Puritans isn't going to ingratiate Calacanis with the denizens of the real world, who DO value balance in their lives and (perhaps correctly) perceive the startup space as a place where antisocial people with self-worth issues go to get rich and die young.

    To each, his own. And to the man making a fortune off the blood of the workaholics? The universe has a better understanding of "balance" than you do, so listen when it starts talking.
  • You are right. And so is Justin.

    It seems the whole issue is one of communication. We should phrase the words carefully. Wanting a hardworking, passionate, team playing etc., worker is understood, and accepted. No problems there.

    Perhaps Jason spoke a little harshly.

    What I would really like to read more about is what a start up, with little money, big dreams and no name in the market place can do to help a worker achieve his dreams.

    It would be great if you could give some thought and ideas on this.

    Regards
  • A real interesting read!
  • I used to work in a startup where a substantial amount of money went into laminated motivational posters, a phone system, plants (including maintenance) and a matching office desk and wall unit with a built-in wine refrigerator and closet.

    That being said, I thought Calacanis' post was actually quite sensible. It's unfortunate that people jumped on what could've been a few unfortunate hyperboles. For realz.

    One should bear in mind that these were money saving tips and not management tips.
  • Ben,
    I wrote a post that keyed off something that Calacanis wrote, but wasn't purely reactionary either. Managing any group of people to optimal performance is not something that can be boiled down to a single sentence, something I have learned the hard way over the years. Similarly, I have learned that hiring people is the easier part of the equation, it's keeping the good ones that is hard.
  • Ben,

    An interesting debate here. My view is that the tendency to work around the clock is tied to age. Young startups often hire young people, who don't have a ton of experience, but will drink Red Bull like it's going out of style and work like crazy.

    On the other end of the spectrum you have startup veterans, who, at this point, may have families. These folks work less but work smart (or at least they should).

    Personally, I take a mixed approach. It's all about situational awareness: when there are urgent issues, priorities or deals - I'm all over them and will close them FAST. The rest of the time, I work smart and hard, but not crazy.

    One final comment: the right startup leader can get peak performance out of a team regardless of their age. At my last company Terrascale, the team there worked around the clock. They'd go home for dinner, then clock back in and run tests on their code, fix bugs, etc. They (and I) were always on call.
    It was not sustainable long term, but for me anyway it was a game changing experience. It elevated my game and made me a better, tougher operator.

    So, Bottom line: there is no one right answer.
  • Most importantly, whether start-up or not, if your staff do not buy into the vision, they are not going to work hard. Can yo sell your vision, is the question.
  • Back in my start-up days, one of our investors said that there are two traits a person needs to be in a start-up - capacity and commitment. I always thought this sums it up.
  • To get people to join you itself is a big problem when you are a start up. The people who join, are usually the type who want to enjoy the excitement that a start up provides. They already have a vested interest to see the start up succeed. They would automatically work much harder than if they were to work in an established set up.

    The problem is calling such committed workers as workaholics. They are most likely just wanting to see the starting problems solved and get the business on strong footing.
  • Interesting article! It can be hard to find really dedicated people at the start, so your job as the boss is to motivate them.
  • Thank you for all the comments so far. I appreciate it.

    @Jeff Nolan: Jason does have a way of "inspiring" others to write about him, or the subjects he takes on. It seems (and maybe this is for another post) that much of the benefits a company offers should be as rewards, and work more effectively that way, versus as motivation - since the best employees are already motivated enough. Any thoughts on that?

    @Audiomecca Webmaster: Workaholics isn't the right term, I agree. People that join a startup should already be committed enough to work hard when necessary, and realize that it will involve more work than another type of job at a more established company.
  • @Ben the best employees are motivated by a combination of working on something intellectually stimulating, working with smart people, and making money... in that order, based on my experience.

    The rewards angle is interesting to consider, but I believe that the best employee satisfaction strategy is to constantly remove barriers that get in people's way. Google is really good about this with their engineers, they create an environment that is as friction free as possible for people to exercise their creativity, while at the same time working in concert to execute on google's mission.
  • @Jeff Nolan: I agree with you in terms of what motivates employees. And I agree that removing barriers is key to the satisfaction strategy. Being able to supply good equipment, the tools employees need, not bogging employees down with things they don't need to worry about, etc. -- allowing them to focus on the task-at-hand...

    I think rewards don't necessarily serve as motivation, but they do create a positive work environment. And that helps in creating an aura of interest around the company from other potential employees.

    You want others (outside the company) congratulating new employees when they get hired. You know if that happens you've created a strong work environment and a good story/aura as well that's permeating into the community.
  • start ups really do require a lot of work as well as a lot of "extra work", thus requiring the need for workaholics, or at least efficient workers (people who can manage their time very well and know how to prioritize). good points made though
  • Thank you Ben.
  • great post Ben -- the distinction between taking steps to chain people to their chairs vs. reward/inspire them is an important one!
  • I'm currently working in a "start up" and without the hard work of the whole team we'd be nothing. One person can bring you down so the points here are very spot on.
  • @VC Dan: You mean chaining employees to the desk ISN'T considered a reward?!?! Hhhm...
  • Great post. I guess it's not the amount of work your employees put in, but the return for their work. It's important to have people who believe in what their doing and have a clear purpose and goal for a startup. 4 good purposeful hours can be better than 12.
  • Everybody can be a workaholic at start-up if he believes he is a part of something important happening, something that wouldn't be possible without his personal participation in it... But still, people should be encouraged all the time, not with coffee and chairs, they should see they will have career growth + better salary + job that keeps being interesting (changing quite a bit) as the dull monotonous job kills the wish to work even if well-paid (in most cases) and even in avid workaholics:)
  • If your employees are workaholics then they will eventually get burned out. And what good are all those extra hours if the longer they work the poorer quality they produce. You need fresh, happy, and productive people if your startup is to succeed. The last thing you need is a huge screw up because someone was working their 16th hour on their 20th cup of coffee.
  • From an HR standpoint, I believe that you should hire employees who are going to be hard workers. There is nothing more painful than having 5 employees and only 2 of them actually doing what they were hired to do.
  • I don't think you should hire people who are gonna be workaholics... it could very easily backfire! At the beginning it might seem great because you are getting more for your money, but eventually there could be problems down the road...
  • I tired to hire a few people to help promote one of my websites. I found that there is a fine line between hiring a work-a-holic that will steal your idea and run with it and a hard working employee that will do what is in the best interest of your company. I think the key distinction is getting a hard worker, not a workaholic.
  • Dan
    This is a very interesting article. One thing that I have noticed in the past too is that its not always the workaholics that you want. Some questions you have to think about is why are they aways at work. Maybe the like what they do and put in extra hours to complete extra tasks, however, it maybe because they are unproductive and unorganized to the point where they have to stay longer just to get the same amount of work as someone working an 8 hour day.
  • Ben,

    When making those first few hires, it is imperative that they have the passion to do whatever it takes to help the company succeed. My phrase is, "the have to bleed [Insert company name here]".

    Anyone that got in an uproar about Jason's posts is absurd and should stay away from entrepreneurship.

    Great post, keep em coming, back t my 18 hour day....
  • @Kar,

    What about 6 months into the project and your employees are completely burned out and either their performance tanks or they start looking elsewhere.

    I hope you got enough extra value out of them to justify re-training new employees every 6-12 months.
  • I don't have a big company, because I'm still considered a start up company. The thing is when you have people working for you that don't like there jobs, or are lazy people. You start having lots of problems in the office, from work not being done on time. To customers getting angry because there work is late. So seriously if you want to put your money on the line when starting up a company, make sure you pick the right people.
  • This is a very interesting article. One thing that I have noticed in the past too is that its not always the workaholics that you want. Some questions you have to think about is why are they aways at work. Maybe the like what they do and put in extra hours to complete extra tasks, however, it maybe because they are unproductive and unorganized to the point where they have to stay longer just to get the same amount of work as someone working an 8 hour day.
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  • Hi Ben,

    Great post. I have to agree, I fail to see what the big fuss is about. It's probably the use of the term "workaholics" as apposed to what was actually meant. In my opinion, a key task for start-ups is to hire people that bring additional skills to the business.
  • @Vlad,

    I see your point but if you have a bad employee it is because they are a bad employee. Employees that work long hours can cause just as much trouble if they are bad workers.
  • tom
    haha, chained to the desk espresso in hand... it's business, nothing personal
  • I dont think time necessarily means more work, I have worked with so many people whom do a standard 40 hour week and do much more work as the work mules working from dawn to dusk. Better to go all out for a short period of time then rest and play hard ready for the next segment. Work smart not hard!
  • Great advice. Being passionate is one of the best ways to become successful
  • yes the passionate is a key of succes like spirutual thing.
  • Hi Ben,

    Great post. I have to agree, I fail to see what the big fuss is about. It's probably the use of the term "workaholics" as apposed to what was actually meant. In my opinion, a key task for start-ups is to hire people that bring additional skills to the business.
  • Replace "Workaholics" with "Passionate People" and this article is spot on. What you want is passionate people who can give their all for a cause, not someone who works themselves to death. Innovation and passion are what makes startups successful.
  • great advice.

    You start having lots of problems in the office, from work not being done on time. To customers getting angry because there work is late. So seriously if you want to put your money on the line when starting up a company, make sure you pick the right people.

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  • I think it's a matter of choosing the right people for the job. They should be dedicated, responsible and passionate to get the job well done and always on time.
  • Passionate people sounds much better. I just started working a company that has recently started up. I don´t consider myself a workaholic, but I am putting a great effort in trying to give the company a kickstart. I feel more passionate about this job, than my last job at a big company where everything was safe and kind of boring.
  • It really is the truest thing in the world that you can't judge a workaholic by the hours but by what they get done in those hours. I have hired people that 1 can get done in half the time as the other and get paid the same.
  • its not easy to find these people.
  • At the begining is better doing by yourselve. No one can startup your business better then you. Then you may hire who ever you want.
  • I am commenting as a former workaholic. And from my point of view, I agree with this article. I was working hard, implementing my tasks, achieving goals, spending hours in office, almost living there... I really contributed a lot to company. I liked my work, and my company, but that's it. I worked perfectly not because of my passion, but because I thought I had to, and later because everybody expected me to. And when I burned up, I was changed with energetic and passionate new employee, and I was said, that apparently, I give everything I could to the company.
    This was my main mistake in my first job - just given the job straight after university, I wanted to be the best, no matter I liked the job, or not. I never repeated it. And never ever started a job I don't like - because when you like the job, passion to it helps to overcome everything. Even long hours :)
  • Great post. I have to agree, I fail to see what the big fuss is about. It's probably the use of the term "workaholics" as apposed to what was actually meant. In my opinion, a key task for start-ups is to hire people that bring additional skills to the business.
  • I absolutely agree - you don't want people who are just driven workaholics for the sake of being so (these people are typically working hard to avoid their personal lives, and their overworking is really unhealthy behavior). What you DO want is employees who share your vision and passion. Then you don't simply have a company; you have a passion factory.
  • First of all, a very interesting blog. I will be hanging around some time.

    I do agree with you in your post, but it is allways easier to talk about it in theory than to do it in practice. But definitely some good points to think about before hire new staff, and how to threat them.
  • Hey Ben, great post. I think a simple question defines the type of person you're looking for:

    Are you looking to make a good income now, or a great income later?
  • @Brandon: I think that's a part of it - but the promise of future riches isn't the biggest motivator anymore. Especially in a downturn economy when a lot of startup employees are seeing their stock option value disappear in a flash.

    But the opportunity to hit it big - or at least be part of something that hits it big - is still important when looking at potential employees.
  • Be aware before it is to late. I was turning into a workoholic a few years ago but stopped in time. Now I only work 40 houra /week and i´m much happier :)
  • You can get addicted to a lot of things. Getting addicted to work is actually really dangerous, since many people consider it honourable working as much as possible. Don´t do it!
  • I am a passionate by lazy guy and yeah I would agree that people like me might not be that good for a startup, but there is a perfect place for people like us and that us upper management.

    I show short bursts of hard work(compared to workaholics long term sustained burst). So its good if I am operating over many such workaholics rather than working myself. Lol!
  • I can´t really understand those workaholics. I agree with you, passionate guy! Don´t hire me for start ups either, I´m all about the long lunches and extended weekends :)
  • Well, I think the discussion is going out of hand. When did it turn to a discussion about lazy people?
  • tom
    I don't have experience in a startup but I can give an opinion form an employee stand point.

    Too many people today are working in a place solely for the money because of the "stuff" they accumulated. So they are trapped, while letting their passions die and becoming slaves to their jobs.

    Yes workaholics are fine but it only makes sense to hire them is if they are a fit for the position. Sure they can be workaholics for years but eventually in the long term, if they don't perceive they are getting ahead, things make start dropping drastically.
  • Personally in my experience its the workaholics who are both most productive and most unproductive. Sometimes they rock a company out, and other times they are a liability.

    In the end I think they bring more benefit than negative to a new startup. And I tend to think of myself as a workaholic junkie.
  • I myself have been a workaholic the first time I stepped into becoming an employee for an institution. It was a desire to teach and exhaust all energy into it that I define myself as a workaholic. I must say that the institution definitely benefited from my services. I think that in time, when I would be able to afford putting up an offline business of my own, I would hire those that love to work and know what overtime or passion means.
  • I always remind myself to set limits on the hours and attention I devote to my job.
    You should also remember to set aside quality time for your personal relationships and pleasures.
  • Offcourse, its better to hire workaholics then lazy one.
    I know from my experience and starting a new business. I hired my friend... lazy... it ended bad... i could not chase him away because he was my friend...
  • Workaholics or not, its a hard question. Find the people you think can provide the best for you, work a holic or not :)
  • Quote: "Find the people you think can provide the best for you, work a holic or not"

    Could not agree more. You can't decide the quality of the employee that way.
  • It's a delicate balance I think. Startups require lots of hard work, and workaholics may burn out. How can you develop this balance is another thing.
  • I think the productivity of the person being hired whether startup or workaholics solely depends on the one they answer to in the company. If they are able to interact well and trust this person, the productivity of that individual will always be one that is beneficial to the company,
  • no i never hire Workaholics. start up need more beneficiary before starting. i watch many <a href=" http://www.interweb.in/pc-videos/ "> online Pc video on the net.. i think it doesn't work.

    Thanks
  • Workaholism is a common type of dysfunctional behavior. It is a destructive behavior pattern that is not normal. Simply working hard from time to time is not actually called workahalic. We all have to do that occasionally. It becomes dysfunctional when the duration and intensity of the behavior get out of control and begin affecting your life in a negative manner. Workaholics must fix this problem first if they want to be more productive
  • Drew
    Heck yes hire a 'workaholic'. It's better than hiring a drug addict.
  • workaholism is a common type of dysfunctional behavior. It is a destructive behavior pattern that is not normal. Simply working hard from time to time is not actually called workahalic. We all have to do that occasionally. It becomes dysfunctional when the duration and intensity of the behavior get out of control and begin affecting your life in a negative manner. Workaholics must fix this problem first if they want to be more product
  • Good read. I think the most challenging thing for a CEO (or manager) is inspiring passion in the workers. This may be what has launched Apple to where it is today, Steve Jobs not only has the passion but the ability to inspire it in the citizens of his Apple empire.
  • Clayton - Thanks for the comment. I agree that instilling passion in workers is key; they have to want to work for YOU as the leader. Even if some of the work isn't their favorite, or isn't ideal ... you have to be able to push them forward through that with your own passion and ability to motivate and inspire.
  • I agree that startups require a level of effort that is far above what we normally see in an average enterprise. Eighteen hour days are the norm, and high stress is the game. It's terribly difficult to know ahead of time, just how someone is going to perform in that kind of environment. The more likely scenario is that you will hire a bunch of people, and then have to do some rearranging and rehires/fires after you get started, just because people's personalities change under pressure.
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  • You can't expect people to work hard for your business if they are being ground to a pulp. They will hate you no matter how much they like working. Why? Because they aren't getting rewarded and harbor resentment towards their superiors. It's instinctive reaction to being taken advantage of. The average business doesn't make money the first 3 years. I know that, but not everyone who works along side me knows that. I've seen a lot of people come and go because they can't handle the pressure without the pay.
  • Devin - thanks for the comment, very much appreciated.
  • Great post; I work for a small business that was started up 10-15 years ago, and I think my boss has done an excellent job of encouraging hard work and recruiting passionate people. It makes a lot of sense to require both passion and hard work within potential employees.
  • Workholic people can make difference to a startUp.People who love their can produce best result on the required time. startup depends on the type of leader it has and the policy used for the motivation of the dedicated people.
  • billiglaan
    Hiring a workaholic is allright, as loong as you treat people right.
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