Fire Your Crappy Customers – The Homestead Hubbub



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So here I am thinking about nuts and having a good laugh about it too when I come across the brouhaha started by Justin Kitch, CEO of Homestead.

Justin suggests there’s a time and place for firing customers.

The resulting comments are generally not positive, with a few Homestead customers questioning whether they’ll stay customers for long. I can understand customers not being overly impressed with Justin’s comments but he’s not entirely wrong.

First, Justin isn’t talking about Homestead customers specifically (as far as I can tell), who sign-up for a product versus a custom service. The example he uses is from a previous business which did custom software development. If you run a product or web-based service business then firing a client doesn’t make a ton of sense because they rarely get enough access to your company to result in a need to fire them.

The main reason people recommend firing customers is that it costs too much money to support them.

Ultra-difficult customers take up a lot of time, and that costs money. They increase frustration levels and rarely result in as much profit as easier customers, if any profit at all. There’s nothing like losing money on a customer to question the value of that customer…

Bad customers are a problem.

Most companies in the product or web-based service/product businesses use email and support forums to handle customers, or ticketing/help desk software. Many of their customers buy the product as is, and they don’t require lots of handholding. So even if a customer is troublesome, they can be contained without having to fire them. In the service business – like software development – it’s another story.

Doug at Service Untitled does a 3-part series on firing customers reflecting on Justin’s blog post. It’s a great, very detailed read.

Laura Benjamin is going to be holding a free teleclass on how to fire customers today. You should still have time to sign-up!

Andrew Parker wonders about the bad publicity generated by Justin’s comments. Lou Hornick echoes similar concerns in his post Firing customers – bad move… when he writes:

Firing a difficult or abusive customer solves a short term problem (the drain on support resources), but creates long-term unhealthiness in your business. It puts former customers on the street with a never ending stream of terrible things to say about your company, and trust me, when you leave them out in the cold they’re not going to forget. They were probably unhappy to begin with, and now you have validated all of their negative sentiment.

Lou’s not wrong. Fire a customer and they very well might cause a stink-fest all over the place. And in the world of social media when a frustrated customer can get on the front page of Digg and instantly have a huge platform to rant from, you should be concerned about firing a customer. Still, one customer’s impact is typically fairly small.

Lou asks the question, “If you make a business practice of terminating difficult customers, and we all have difficult customers, how long does it really need to go on before you have critical mass of scorned ex-customers generating adverse financial impact?”

I’m not sure anyone, including Justin, makes a habit of firing customers. In my 10+ years of experience in the Web service and software businesses I’ve let a handful of customers go. Maybe less. Most of the time it was mutual, once or twice we weren’t paid and it nearly went to legal action. Shit happens.

Here are my recommendations:

  1. Recognize the fact that crappy customers exist.
  2. Ensure that you and your staff understand how to handle crappy customers.
  3. Demanding customers are not the same as crappy customers. A demanding customer wants an excellent product and excellent service. A crappy customer wants more than that, they’re rude, ignorant and near-impossible to work with. I can respect demanding, but people do take it beyond that.
  4. Make sure the fault is with the customer and not you.
  5. After all options are exhausted, and it’s clear that the client is much more of a burden to the company as a client than otherwise, fire them.
  6. Once you’ve fired your client be prepared for any backlash. It can be mitigated (if necessary) through direct communications with other customers, building positive buzz, responding to negative feedback, etc.
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January 11, 2007 Posted in Business by

  • http://www.laurabenjamin.com Laura Benjamin

    For those who miss today’s free teleclass on “How to Fire a Customer (and why would you ever want to?)”, I’ll be recording it and making it available as a podcast (as soon as I figure out the steps involved). Still learning all this tekkie stuff! Thanks for the reference!
    Laura Benjamin

  • http://www.laurabenjamin.com Laura Benjamin

    For those who miss today's free teleclass on “How to Fire a Customer (and why would you ever want to?)”, I'll be recording it and making it available as a podcast (as soon as I figure out the steps involved). Still learning all this tekkie stuff! Thanks for the reference!
    Laura Benjamin

  • http://brainbasedbiz.blogspot.com Robyn McMaster

    Hi Ben, you enjoy Seth Godin\\\’s blog last year: The Customer is Always – at:
    http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2006/04/the_customer_is.html

    You bring out some great nuances on this topic. Thanks for a great post.

  • http://brainbasedbiz.blogspot.com Robyn McMaster

    Hi Ben, you enjoy Seth Godin\'s blog last year: The Customer is Always – at:
    http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2006/04

    You bring out some great nuances on this topic. Thanks for a great post.

  • http://successfromthenest.com Tony D. Clark

    Hey Ben – I appreciate all the link love – even though it seems to involve nuts a lot lately :)

    As a self-employed person, knowing when and how to fire bad customers is important. It can affect so many areas of your business, that how you handle it can really impact you and your work.

  • http://successfromthenest.com Tony D. Clark

    Hey Ben – I appreciate all the link love – even though it seems to involve nuts a lot lately :)

    As a self-employed person, knowing when and how to fire bad customers is important. It can affect so many areas of your business, that how you handle it can really impact you and your work.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Ben Yoskovitz

    Hey Tony – from one nut to another, you deserve it.

    Thanks for stopping by!

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Ben Yoskovitz

    Hey Tony – from one nut to another, you deserve it.

    Thanks for stopping by!

  • http://www.yemma.com.ng Emmanuel

    Every business owner should learn when exactly to call it quit with any customers. No matter how hard you try to satisfy some customers, it will seem as if you are not doing anything.

    So, the first thing is for you to accept that you can not satisfy all customers. Be ready to pay back some customers if need be and also be ready to face the consequencies. That action might lead to blackmail. But don’t worry. Just focus on providing your service.

  • http://www.yemma.com.ng Emmanuel

    Every business owner should learn when exactly to call it quit with any customers. No matter how hard you try to satisfy some customers, it will seem as if you are not doing anything.

    So, the first thing is for you to accept that you can not satisfy all customers. Be ready to pay back some customers if need be and also be ready to face the consequencies. That action might lead to blackmail. But don't worry. Just focus on providing your service.

  • http://www.successful-blog.com Liz Strauss

    Ben,
    You’ve done a masterful job here of bring head and heart to the problem. You logically explain what the problem is but you don’t leave out the people point of view when you explain the whys around it — including why Justin’s original post was misunderstood. I like the way you think about things and people. :)

  • http://www.successful-blog.com Liz Strauss

    Ben,
    You've done a masterful job here of bring head and heart to the problem. You logically explain what the problem is but you don't leave out the people point of view when you explain the whys around it — including why Justin's original post was misunderstood. I like the way you think about things and people. :)

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Ben Yoskovitz

    Emmanuel – you’re right – you can’t please everyone all the time. It’s an important lesson.

    Liz – thanks for stopping by. Head and heart — that’s me. *grin*

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Ben Yoskovitz

    Emmanuel – you're right – you can't please everyone all the time. It's an important lesson.

    Liz – thanks for stopping by. Head and heart — that's me. *grin*

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  • http://www.userscape.com/blog/ Ian

    Here’s another article on the subject

    http://www.christopherhawkins.com/06-13-2005.htm#78

  • http://www.userscape.com/blog/ Ian

    Here's another article on the subject

    http://www.christopherhawkins.com/06-13-2005.ht

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Ben Yoskovitz

    Ian – thanks for the link. I remember reading that post when it was published!

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Ben Yoskovitz

    Ian – thanks for the link. I remember reading that post when it was published!

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  • http://DJWebsiteDesigner.com Todd

    Justin is Firing his customers and his employees all in one swift motion!

    My Guess is that anyone commenting on this blog with stuff like: GREAT! Congrats! Well Done! You Deserve IT! is most likely a current stockholder, ex-employee, disgruntled ex-employee, about to be ex-employee, Intuit employee, a buddy, or a loved one. I would venture to say that anyone who has a direct stake in the aftermath, such as current customers, devoted employees, or vendors and sub-contractors will be freaked out for sure and for good reason. HAS ANYONE evidence of “good things” for existing employees or customers resulting from an acquistion? Even current stockholders who are rejoicing will be closely watching the stock value so that they can sell it at more than it’s current value is, but before it goes in the inevitable dumper after the newness wears off.

    I forgave Justin, for selling… I just wish we’d get the real-skinny – Not some watered down, or trumped up “sunshine and sugar up up your @$$” public relations, press article. I doubt ANYONE believes in Homestead’s 5 priorities right now (except possibly #5 shareholder)… C’Mon – Tell it like it is! AT least you’d get out with some respect.

  • http://DJWebsiteDesigner.com Todd

    Justin is Firing his customers and his employees all in one swift motion!

    My Guess is that anyone commenting on this blog with stuff like: GREAT! Congrats! Well Done! You Deserve IT! is most likely a current stockholder, ex-employee, disgruntled ex-employee, about to be ex-employee, Intuit employee, a buddy, or a loved one. I would venture to say that anyone who has a direct stake in the aftermath, such as current customers, devoted employees, or vendors and sub-contractors will be freaked out for sure and for good reason. HAS ANYONE evidence of “good things” for existing employees or customers resulting from an acquistion? Even current stockholders who are rejoicing will be closely watching the stock value so that they can sell it at more than it's current value is, but before it goes in the inevitable dumper after the newness wears off.

    I forgave Justin, for selling… I just wish we'd get the real-skinny – Not some watered down, or trumped up “sunshine and sugar up up your @$$” public relations, press article. I doubt ANYONE believes in Homestead's 5 priorities right now (except possibly #5 shareholder)… C'Mon – Tell it like it is! AT least you'd get out with some respect.

  • http://DJWebsiteDesigner.com Todd

    Justin Fired Me!!! I’m glad he did. Best thing that ever happened, although it hurt like hell. Long story short, I started with Homestead in early 2000′s and after spending upwards of $10,000 in hosting fees I was fired. I brought the problem on myself by sending Justin a nasty email in response to his mass email about how happy he was to sell his company to Intuit for $170,000,000… Well, YEAH. That’s great – Justin’s bank account is fat, what about me, the loyal customer? Getting thrown to the wolves at Intuit was not my idea of a good time and I let him know. Then, he fired me.

  • http://DJWebsiteDesigner.com Todd

    Justin Fired Me!!! I'm glad he did. Best thing that ever happened, although it hurt like hell. Long story short, I started with Homestead in early 2000's and after spending upwards of $10,000 in hosting fees I was fired. I brought the problem on myself by sending Justin a nasty email in response to his mass email about how happy he was to sell his company to Intuit for $170,000,000… Well, YEAH. That's great – Justin's bank account is fat, what about me, the loyal customer? Getting thrown to the wolves at Intuit was not my idea of a good time and I let him know. Then, he fired me.

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