An Alternative Model for Startup Incubation



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Recently I wrote a blog post on things to think about when starting a startup accelerator. I pointed out that most accelerator programs take between 5-12% or thereabouts for a fairly standard amount of money and time. Year One Labs is a bit different (more money and more time = more equity taken); our belief being that early stage startups need more time to bake. But even Year One Labs only takes 20%, and we only invested in 5 companies, and we don’t follow-on, so we get diluted just like founders do as they take on more financing.

In thinking about alternative models for startup acceleration or incubation, I can’t help but ask the question, “What if the incubator owned 80% instead of 20% and the people working on the startup owned 20% instead of 80%? How could that work? And does it make sense?”

In some cases it might.

Here’s how this could work:

  1. The incubator recruits talented people who may have the potential of becoming founders, but aren’t required to do so. The incubator takes 80% and the employees/entrepreneurs/founders-to-be take 20%.
  2. The incubator invests more money, effectively paying salaries, but they’ll be discounted. This is the risk that people take joining, but they’ll earn more than a couple thousand/month. The flip side is that people will be getting much more equity than they would have otherwise as Employee #1 or #2 at a startup. And they have the potential to grow into founder roles.
  3. The incubator isn’t funding startups, it’s funding projects. The projects may eventually become startups – if they get enough traction (which needs to be defined by the incubator) – and will need founders to run them. The people working on the projects may become the founders or CEOs/CTOs/etc. But not necessarily.

    There’s clearly a risk here – a project takes off, has the right traction, but no real founders. This scenario is possible, and these types of startups will have a very hard time raising follow-on capital because there’s no leadership. So the incubator has to have a great network in order to bring in a CEO and leadership team, or be prepared to have one of its own take over the company (in the case where the people working on the project aren’t founder / C-level material.)

  4. If a person in the incubator is C-level / founder material, then the equity split changes. It might not flip completely (from 80-20 to 20-80), but the executive / founding team should own the bulk of the company.

    So why even start with the incubator owning most of the company at all, if it’s just going to change after?

  5. The incubator needs to be structured in a way that allows it to sell projects (or “near-companies”) very early. In these scenarios, the incubator owns the bulk of the equity and gets a good return. The employees still own a good enough piece that the reward is meaningful and they get fantastic experience being involved in an entrepreneurial endeavor.

    For these kinds of early exits, the incubator needs to have great relationships with acquirers. Creating a niche incubator focused on a narrow area of expertise can help with this. Having strong industry relationships will also be critical.

  6. It’s easier in this model to kill projects more quickly and get less attached to them. It’s also easier to transfer people from one project to another. This is especially true if there’s a vertical focus to the incubator, where it’s likely that people in Project A will be interested and familiar with Project B. People can shift between projects, you can double down on those that are moving in the right direction, and potentially continue funding them for some time (if you have the resources), so you don’t require external financing as quickly.
  7. It’s also easier to start projects quickly, resource them, see what happens and shift quickly (if necessary). If you’ve got enough talented people inside the incubator it can become an innovation machine.
  8. Talent is easier to find, because you’re not looking exclusively for founders (which is extremely hard to do). You’re also not waiting for fully baked teams to come to you with fully baked ideas. You’re plucking individuals, building teams, brainstorming ideas together, etc. True incubation.

    Incidentally, I think this incubation model could work inside larger corporations too, and be an interesting way to revitalize companies and innovate.

  9. In Canada, with our strong tax credit system (that pays a significant percentage of R&D costs back to a company), there’s a definite financial benefit to this approach as well. If everyone is an employee of the incubator, and paid a salary vs. receiving an investment, a lot of that money can be recouped.

For any place outside of Silicon Valley (and possibly New York and Boston), it’s near impossible to have all the pieces in place to build a strong startup ecosystem. There are just too many moving parts. That doesn’t mean companies can’t emerge out of any place and be hugely successful. But an accelerator or incubator is an attempt to build a “formula for success”, which does start to break down when pieces are missing. The model I’m proposing here is an attempt to circumvent some of those issues, including:

  • A lack of successful entrepreneurs
  • Inexperienced entrepreneurs without the supportive infrastructure
  • Lower risk tolerances (i.e. Not enough entrepreneurs)
  • Slower funding cycles (and in some places a lack of funding options)
  • Competition with other accelerators (i.e. What’s your differentiation and unique value proposition vs. other accelerators?)

There are clearly risks, and it’s far from a guarantee that this would even work. You might only find employee-like individuals who never grow into founders. If you can’t drop in C-level executives, you’ll be building projects and never any actual companies. People who consider themselves entrepreneurs and founders might be insulted by the equity split. Investors might be wary of the model. But all over the world right now, people are looking at starting accelerators built on the Y Combinator or TechStars model, and it’s not entirely clear if those models are feasible or sustainable elsewhere. It’s at least worth discussing alternatives that may be more appropriate in certain geographies, under certain circumstances.

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August 17, 2011 Posted in Startup Accelerators by

  • http://www.mattroberts.com matt roberts

    This is similar to the Wesley Clover model. Though we used inexperienced entrepreneurs.

    My thinking is that experienced team members would rather go all the way and take the risk or not at all. We also allowed the teams to split the equity assigned to them more or less as they wished, with some oversight to make sure there was some fairness to the discussions. 

  • Michael Mahon

    Very interesting and innovative…

  • http://www.techentrepreneurship.com Helge Seetzen

    You have laid out the TandemLaunch model with almost perfect precision. The only difference is that we, were applicable, reserve 10-30% for the C-level founding entrepreneurs (the rest is the same, so 15-20% for the non-C/non-founding people, TandemLaunch invests $100k to $1M, we don’t require multiple founders or in fact any C-level founders, etc.).

    As a contributor to one of our projects you would have a perspective of how this works operationally. We will find out how well it works as an economic model in the next couple of years when we have sufficient exit statistics.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    A portion of inspiration definitely comes from TandemLaunch’s model, which I’m a big fan of. There are some definite adjustments for a web/mobile-centric play in terms of a definition of traction, amount of money required, founding teams, etc. – but a lot of the foundation is the same.

    I think TandemLaunch’s model is an incredibly smart one – but as you point out, it’s still a bit early and there are going to be lots of adjustments that take place as it evolves.

  • http://www.techentrepreneurship.com Helge Seetzen

    Absolutely. TandemLaunch is start-up squared (projects * mothership). Both levels are adjusting to refine/find a scalable business model. Still, we must be onto something – not a lot of incubators have to pay tax in their first year :) .

    I am actually not sure if the same structure would work for web/mobile. It seems to me that many Web acquisitions are driven by Google hiring developers rather than making true technology/product purchases. That puts the value of the project without developers pretty close to zero (and steeply derates value with less than the usual 2-3 founder types) .

    In our case each project has two secondary value driver: patents. While strong people still make up a lot of the value, the intellectual property definitely creates a value base line. I don’t know what the web equivalent of this is. Maybe users? Do real-name users have a tangible transfer value in the web world?

  • http://twitter.com/abdallahalhakim Abdallah AlHakim

    very interesting model and one that might be more suited for the Canadian innovation ecosystem

  • http://robertsaric.com/ Robert Saric

    I would rather “work” for this incubator than participate as a startup in it. This model is a great way for entrepreneurs to get their feet wet, as a student in University I would have jumped all over this when I started my first company — mainly to learn as much as possible. To be honest, I would recommend just about every recent-grad who has an entrepreneurial itch to participate. It sort of worked in R&D with examples of BNR and Nortel spinoffs — where a senior exec “owned” a separate product line, and their reward was a small equity kicker with low risk (e.g.if the product line failed, they just move on to the next product/idea) and an established team — the caveat, however, was that the burn was substantial. It does allow for a fail quick mentality – but founder attachment would be pretty much non-existent (assuming there is some value in that). If there was a discretionary option pool established that vested for all incubator participants (over a term) and could be exercised towards growing or building another business in the event of an exit, that could potentially work as well. 

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Robert – Thanks for the comment and feedback, much appreciated.

  • http://www.techentrepreneurship.com Helge Seetzen

    Good thoughts but I think the gap is a lot smaller than you think. Founders who also happen to be C-level material will still have a very significant equity stake of 10-30% after our average ~$500k (common share). Compare that to a traditional venture with 3 equal founders and $1.5M pre-money: 33% starting, 27% after ESOP allocation, 20% of $500k round. Exactly the same mid-range outcome.

    We simply eliminated the other two C-level founders. Instead, those roles are covered by TandemLaunch without the “founder” equity hit (as TandemLaunch staff they get equity from the 20% staff pool but also get paid competitively). Frankly, the probability of a young start-up actually having 3 C-level founders is pretty slim (no matter how rockstar-ish they might feel). I would happily stack myself or my senior business/technical leaders up against the average founders I see in Montreal. Especially in an accelerator context where the founders are usually new to entrepreneurship while TandemLaunch senior staff has gone through multiple ventures (before and at TandemLaunch).
    The only real difference comes for “founders” who aren’t C-level material. Frankly, those are just early employees with fancy titles. That’s a mistake that, in my opinion, many start-ups make and that TandemLaunch implicitly avoids by actually making them employees (more here: http://bit.ly/i9JKkQ ).

  • Ali Ahmed

    This is also similar to H-Farm in Italy. Although as a founder of a startup I tend to strongly disagree with this model. This basically boils down to an argument on ownership. If a motivated scrappy risk-all entrepreneur feels disconnected from an ownership perspective, it will be very hard to get the level of dedication needed to execute. It is the main reason why you don’t see many corporate ‘intrapreneurial’ spin offs turning into apples and googles.

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  • http://robertsaric.com/ Robert Saric

    It’s hard to argue your model Helge, and I’m sure simple metrics like capital efficiency, time to exit, exit valuations, and return on investment will make it easy to gauge validity. Let’s assume, you’re in a scenario with two “founders”, both are competent, not necessarily C-level but add value to the team. Would it be assumed that they would share the 10-30% equity stake, or is the outcome instant dichotomy? 

  • http://www.techentrepreneurship.com Helge Seetzen

    Of course it’s linear, so they both get part of it. In fact, everything we do is designed to be structurally completely linear. I strongly believe that alignment of interest is the best indicator of venture success. Thus, our investment is not only on a common share basis, it also comes on “to order”. In other words, if we commit $500k for say 50% of the company (example only), but the venture only spends $250k to achieve an exit or profitability then we only get 25%. We all want the best ROI, and this way everybody has the same incentive to maximize it. (Note, TandemLaunch is effectively an evergreen fund without LPs, so we can re-invest the remaining $250k into another deal offering a similarly good ROI – this approach doesn’t work for conventional VCs who cannot re-use the money).

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    The key is that there aren’t a ton of motivated scrappy risk-all entrepreneurs. Those folks will start their own companies and wouldn’t necessarily benefit or at least identify with this model. But for others that are more risk adverse, not as aggressive … this model may make sense.

  • http://twitter.com/CulturaHQ Jason @ Cultura HQ

    100% agree with this. Wrote about this in two recent articles. One on the role cities can play –  http://goo.gl/83qeb and the other in relation to the huge opportunity for angel investors to roll up their sleeves – http://goo.gl/E2iRD

  • Ed Addison

    This model is like the movie industry, which succeeds because it has large central finance and distribution systems (the media companies).  The outlet doesn’t exist (yet) for such start up companies.  An 80-20 split would be objectionable to a VC who wants to see the founding team motivated and who does not want to see large outside shareholders.  This model is the way things ought to go, but the infrastructure does n’t exist yet to make the “projects” successful after the accelerator is done.

  • Anonymous

    This is a model which is worthy of experimentation.  ”Accelerators” by and large limit opportunities for next generation talent who have strong entrepreneurial ambitions and smarts but don’t yet have business-grade projects.  Rob Saric is right about those students hungry to learn. I can see the potential of allying such a hybrid accelerator model with hackathons/hackfests and possibly 4th year engineering management honours projects.  Your approach has the potential to be a great talent magnet.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Jason – thanks for stopping by and commenting, really appreciate it.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Ed – I appreciate the comment. And you’re right, the infrastructure isn’t there to make the projects successful, the incubator has to build that. That’s what I describe as the food chain of the whole system: talent -> incubator -> follow-on funding -> acquirers. It all has to be lined up in order for something like this to work well, scale and remain sustainable.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Agreed – as a talent magnet for younger developers that aren’t sure if they’re ready to be entrepreneurs and hold all the responsibility on their own, I think this kind of model can work.

  • http://twitter.com/Briac Briac Guibert

    As the entrepreneur, if you have the next big idea + team + momentum etc, maybe not the right model, but if you value your work life and seek a stimulating environment, definitely worth the wage discount. Think creative agencies. Employees would work there for less, with more stress. Client-side pays more, but is boring. You are watching the under-paid, under pressure agency employees have fun from your cubicle.
    It seems to me that most incubators are about the process rather than the outcome already (from the entrepreneur viewpoint). I.e, I’m not sure those entrepreneurs are into it for their business idea, instead they enjoy the lean methodology, creative process, meeting people, getting  advices from experienced mentors, learning a lot etc. I would definitely work for such an incubator, as a first-time entrepreneur. Also, I would apply to this if it was happening within a larger corporation.

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  • http://www.rateit.com Courtney Dillard

    Definitely a 

  • http://www.rateit.com Courtney Dillard

    model to look into I think there wouldn’t be so much of an objection to an 80-20 split it’s the reversal in roles where you lose me…

  • http://twitter.com/Vipescortangel Vipescortangel

    There are some definite adjustments for a web/mobile-centric play in
    terms of a definition of traction, amount of money required, founding
    teams, etc. – but a lot of the foundation is the same
    http://www.vipescortangel.com/

  • http://www.etventure.com Philipp Herrmann

    Just came across this article. It totally agree with you. In my view, early-stage venture building should be project-based, which has many advantages (such as more objectivity, higher likelihood to kill projects earlier if they are going to fail, higher flexibility in general). A central team tests various ideas in form of first minimal viable products and decides based on initial (real) market data whether to really launch and roll out a bsgnificant usiness (=company w/ entrepreneurs) out of a single idea. That’s exactly the approach that we have taken at our startup http://www.etventure.com and we get positive reactions in our first fundraising rounds. I don’t claim that we’ll certainly perform better with this approach, but I am convinced that it is worth trying!

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  • Adrian

    This is EXACTLY our model: we are Melbourne’s (Australia) first venture accelerator and right from the outset that we decided that each 6 months we would incubate 4 startup teams in the ‘traditional way’ (for us, that means: 6 months; $20k; 10% equity) PLUS one internal project 80% us and 20% for the person/s leading the project.

    It remains to be seen whether we need to adjust the equity according to your Point 4. but it is certainly something that we have discussed: how to get – and hold onto – the right ‘C’-level person to front the next funding round, since we can’t keep showing our faces at investor pitches.

  • joy

    that is provided a spur I have been waiting on for quite a while.  For months, I
    have been waiting for the right context and inspiration with which to
    write about the start up incubation model as a unique case study that
    combines two of my personal interests: mentorship and alternative
    currency.  very cute information is i get it thanks

  • Charlie Perry

    One quick question.. How much collateral does these incubators require to fund a Project?

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    They don’t require collateral, but they typically take an equity stake in the project – 5-20%.

  • http://www.instigatorblog.com Benjamin Yoskovitz

    Thanks for stopping by and commenting Adrian – please keep me posted on how things go with the model in Australia.

  • joyanu

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